tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post4482345289846938459..comments2023-11-03T08:13:04.072-04:00Comments on anabegins: The vicious cycleAnahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00006807775816627217noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-83880039060777814012016-03-28T17:14:14.812-04:002016-03-28T17:14:14.812-04:00Just adding a +1 for the "Say Good Night to I...Just adding a +1 for the "Say Good Night to Insomnia" book mentioned upthread. I went through a brutal year-long battle with insomnia several years ago and it helped enormously at undoing the anxiety I had built up around bedtime.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02703653824329087438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-35382348410521883142016-03-28T10:03:13.165-04:002016-03-28T10:03:13.165-04:00going to pick up some unisom (doxylamine kind) tod...going to pick up some unisom (doxylamine kind) today. Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00006807775816627217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-64111118035570662552016-03-28T10:01:55.383-04:002016-03-28T10:01:55.383-04:00hmmm, thanks for the info. I hadn't thought ab...hmmm, thanks for the info. I hadn't thought about trazadone.<br />Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00006807775816627217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-16085738538095179152016-03-28T10:01:31.920-04:002016-03-28T10:01:31.920-04:00oh man, I'm starting to really freak out that ...oh man, I'm starting to really freak out that this is a permanent thing! my mom has the same exact thing. I thought I was way too young for peri-menopause but apparently not. Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00006807775816627217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-44811315002698704882016-03-26T21:17:08.314-04:002016-03-26T21:17:08.314-04:00So sorry! I am 4 months into newborn sleep depriva...So sorry! I am 4 months into newborn sleep deprivation (twins!!!). & I am definitely experiencing what you describe - lack of patience and lack of enjoyment for life. One of our boys should be able to Sleep train soon & big sister is an awesome sleeper, so I am clinging to that. <br /><br />My mom suffers from peri/menapause related insomnia - hers is the go to sleep fine but wake up at 2-3-4 am and not be able to go back to sleep. I had this during pregnancy & am worried I will have this too as I age. <br /><br />I hope you find something that works for you soon. It is amazing how restorative just a night or 2 of sleep can be!the Frugal Ecologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05007753245445039830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-35921695300133081462016-03-26T18:14:47.897-04:002016-03-26T18:14:47.897-04:00Fascinating. Ah... marketing. Also, someone else...Fascinating. Ah... marketing. Also, someone else mentioned Trazodone. Intern year I had a lot of patients who took used that and really liked it.OMDGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937425894428802591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-5767486814771981102016-03-26T12:48:14.050-04:002016-03-26T12:48:14.050-04:00I had ppd with both kids and took Ssri. All 3 (Pax...I had ppd with both kids and took Ssri. All 3 (Paxil, Zoloft, and lexapro) caused insomnia with Paxil being the worst. (I tried Paxil 1st, switched to Zoloft bc of the insomnia, then with 2nd kid did lexa bc Zoloft caused weight gain)<br /><br />I was BF and my ob prescribed trazadone to help me sleep. It worked great with no side effects for me and it wasn't addictive--i just stopped using it when I was done with ssris. It's an old time antidepressant and some people are all oooh but it worked great for me.Been therehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06359544364443257350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-78964331048353233342016-03-26T09:11:50.136-04:002016-03-26T09:11:50.136-04:00Pubmed says bc reduces peri menopause symptoms but...Pubmed says bc reduces peri menopause symptoms but does not eliminate them.Nicoleandmaggiehttp://nicoleandmaggie.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-81148078706885754862016-03-25T22:35:42.535-04:002016-03-25T22:35:42.535-04:00I've taken the doxylamine version. It's a...I've taken the doxylamine version. It's astonishing. gwinnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840990153103781272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-42173922162803651092016-03-25T20:31:22.472-04:002016-03-25T20:31:22.472-04:00To clarify---it may work during my milder random d...To clarify---it may work during my milder random days of trouble sleeping, but this is really resistant to everything I've tried (and I did try that 4-7-8 method after reading about it somewhere)anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320182732889825712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-84799653483699568272016-03-25T20:29:38.890-04:002016-03-25T20:29:38.890-04:00No it was awful...I need to be able to get up and ...No it was awful...I need to be able to get up and live my life...I didn't feel well rested, just groggy all the time and also had palpitations and tachycardia. And I was 19 then. anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320182732889825712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-62432238403651147482016-03-25T20:21:26.583-04:002016-03-25T20:21:26.583-04:00I have a good pmd and enough knowledge to convince...I have a good pmd and enough knowledge to convince her otherwise, I think. Also the fact that I'm going to therapy and my therapist truly thinks I'm not depressed or anxious but that I'm reacting to the insomnia should be helpfulanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320182732889825712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-39158292281014338042016-03-25T20:19:35.080-04:002016-03-25T20:19:35.080-04:00Certain forms (anything but the "sleep tab&qu...Certain forms (anything but the "sleep tab", apparently) are diphenhydramine. (I had to look it up Bc I was certain I'd read that on the bottle when I almost bought it)anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320182732889825712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-23645477416315926532016-03-25T19:58:57.990-04:002016-03-25T19:58:57.990-04:00Doxylamine, actually but you're right that the...Doxylamine, actually but you're right that they are both antihistamines. OMDGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937425894428802591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-44058300573906336682016-03-25T19:57:49.581-04:002016-03-25T19:57:49.581-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.OMDGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937425894428802591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-67427594096351361102016-03-25T19:56:32.599-04:002016-03-25T19:56:32.599-04:00Yeah, it's never worked for me eitherYeah, it's never worked for me eitherOMDGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937425894428802591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-65241498804569328562016-03-25T19:55:38.593-04:002016-03-25T19:55:38.593-04:00Maybe sleeping through your alarm is just what you...Maybe sleeping through your alarm is just what you need (not literally of course, and really I am mostly kidding). <br /><br />I'm intrigued by the cbt book for insomnia. I'll have to check it out. And yeah, the saris can worsen sleep, but it's not unheard of for a pmd to decided that your real problem is anxiety, and try to treat that with an ssri despite the activating features they have in some people. Not personal experience, but I've heard of it happening.OMDGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937425894428802591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-44764727726868892352016-03-25T18:12:56.359-04:002016-03-25T18:12:56.359-04:00I slept beautifully on Remeron despite a lifetime ...I slept beautifully on Remeron despite a lifetime of insomnia, but I gained about 30 pounds on it. I recently read a book called "Say Goodnight to Insomnia" by Gregg Jacobs (a Harvard physician), and I found the CBT approach to insomnia really helpful. I've been sleeping better since I read it than I have at any time in my adult life. It's a bit cheezy like any self-help book, but I found the advice very helpful.Solitary Diner (Also Known as The Frugalish Physician)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01239189582752445700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-49397807704631579342016-03-25T17:58:39.912-04:002016-03-25T17:58:39.912-04:00No way to TCA or remeron. I took elavil in college...No way to TCA or remeron. I took elavil in college for headaches and I was so miserable, I missed 80% of my moRnimg classes Bc I slept through my alarm! SSRI can worsen sleep. I am really wanting short term something like ambien to break the cycle. Then I can also work on CBT stuff (there is insomnia specific CBT that you can learn about online)anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320182732889825712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-17566015305775388162016-03-25T17:54:21.517-04:002016-03-25T17:54:21.517-04:00I tried this. It doesn't workI tried this. It doesn't workanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320182732889825712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-42971120573280112022016-03-25T17:53:41.764-04:002016-03-25T17:53:41.764-04:00Unisom is diphenhydramine aka Benadryl Unisom is diphenhydramine aka Benadryl anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320182732889825712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-76096596990821999242016-03-25T17:24:18.357-04:002016-03-25T17:24:18.357-04:00Unisom is NyQuil without the tylenolUnisom is NyQuil without the tylenolOMDGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937425894428802591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-32997542851454324162016-03-25T16:11:19.894-04:002016-03-25T16:11:19.894-04:00Oh, Ana. You know I hear you!
You might read Ga...Oh, Ana. You know I hear you!<br /><br />You might read Gayle Green's Insomniac (she has an old blog Sleep Starved?)<br /><br />There's no amount of 'sleep hygiene' that will help me. I will try to wean myself off Lunesta (at least lower my dose) but right now it works. Not 100% but it's the only drug that really helps with waking in the middle of the night (as opposed to falling asleep at the beginning of the night)<br /><br />Unisom (not the one with benadryl in it, the other one) I've also found helpful.gwinnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840990153103781272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-37134507094830603432016-03-25T16:00:24.687-04:002016-03-25T16:00:24.687-04:00Well in that case I'm definitely curious to se...Well in that case I'm definitely curious to see what your dr suggests. My first guess is ssri, but maybe a tca? Remeron would be fabulous, but it might make you gain weight which I doubt you want.OMDGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937425894428802591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219236556397495909.post-8220687009117830252016-03-25T15:08:38.647-04:002016-03-25T15:08:38.647-04:00Progressive muscle relaxation (it's a CBT thin...Progressive muscle relaxation (it's a CBT thing) puts me to sleep. When I fell asleep in the therapist's office when she tried it, she suggested maybe not that technique for my test anxiety and to stick with the breathing.nicoleandmaggiehttp://nicoleandmaggie.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com